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Alright...first video:



This was my initial Comment:


While it is true that Governments do lie...I think this guy is out to lunch.
9/11 was staged? Please...that is such bullshit. If the United States WANTED to invade a a middle-eastern country...they would just DO IT...they would not need to knock down some buildings.

So this user named bobbycatacutan replies. She is a girl, just for your information.

You see the thing you don't understand is it's not Americas Job to be the police men of the world. How would you feel if Japanese Soilders were on your land telling you how to live your life, because they thought you were doing "bad things"? It's common sense to stay out of other peoples businesses, we aren't in CONTROL of them. Besides if the government is mistreating the people, it's up to the people to stand up to them. They the people, can stand up to their own government.

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What you fail to understand, is the fact that Afghanistan, Iraq, etc, which had the liberation of innocent people from the tyranny of their Governments at heart, have always been multinational. As free nations, it is our job to defend truth and justice around the world, so everyone can enjoy freedom/security.
There are times that a Government can be so powerful, that the innocent people below it simply have no chance or no means to stand up and fight. This is called oppression.

She replies

yeah they really are helping them out, YO THEYRE BRINGING HIM TO THE HOSPITAL DONT LET HIM GET AWAY!!!!

youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotati*on_801211&v=-byU_92NcN8&featur*e=iv

She posted a link to a video...so...check it out if you want.

I reply

That video is stupid. You generalize the entire military and Government based on the actions of a few people? You are stupid.
I'm sorry, you have lost all credibility in the matter. You generalize a vast network of individuals based on the actions on a few.
You suck.

She replies

Oh wait did I forget to mention how American Soilder can simply get away with shooting civilians by throwing weapons near their dead bodies?

liveleak.com/view?i=f66_1223515331.

Do your research before watching too much into fox news kid

I reply

Why do you assume I watch Fox News? More baseless comments?

There are two things wrong with "planting weapons"

All guns used by the US military are BASICALLY tagged with the words PROPERTY OF THE US GOVERNMENT. Each gun has a registered serial number on it. Each bullet and slug is the same way. If there is question about the casualty, there will be an investigation into it, and you can bet you ass that is going to be traced VERY fast.
You are stupid. You know nothing.

She replies

Oh and when dead are lying on the ground with a weapon on their body they obviously are seen as insergents, not as civilians as the video explains. Learn to look at the other side of the story broski, you might learn the truth. ANYWAY remember not to eat the entire fruit this time child.

I reply

You're telling me to "learn the truth"?

You believe 9/11 was an inside job. You are the conspiracy theory whacko. You listen to the ramblings of a YouTube anarchist who does not have enough respect to even get on television. If anything he said had merit, he would be on television, not uploading videos to YouTube.

You, are just some spaced-out conspiracy theorist. Let me guess...you think the X-Files is a real life documentary? THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE SKULLY!

You're an idiot.


I have yet to receive a reply.

But this moron, thinks I am misguided, when she believes 9/11 was an inside job.

DUH...


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Alright...second video:



This was my initial Comment:


Why elect the Liberals? Do you know what Ad-Scam is?
Why elect the NDP? Remember Bob Rae? He destroyed Ontario.
With Harper, we have the strongest banks, first country to emerge the global recession, and the lowest debt of the G20 nations, believe it or not.
Not enough Doctors? Blame the Liberals. The Liberals under Chretien raised their taxes 10-fold. Nobody wants to be a Doctor.
Problems with the bus routes? Complain to the municipal Gov. Feds have NOTHING to do with that.
You are stupid.

So this user named dramabitchespolitics replies. She is a girl as well(doesn't say much about women)

The Conservatives have done things too. Who introduced GST? Who is against gay marriage? Who gives tax breaks to big corporations? I'm mentioned the municipal and provincial governments because it is a reflection of the party just like you did when mentioning Bob ray. The NDP have been successful in Saskatchewan. Liberals Ad-Scam or sponsorship scandal? Under Chretien we were in a boom makes sence to increase taxes so that you can decrease them in a recession.

I reply

GST replaced the MST, and the MST was crippling business in Canada. Harper lowered the GST. Layton and Ignatieff wanted to raise it passed 7%.
Corporate tax cuts affect small and large corporations. Cutting corporate taxes keeps corporations in Canada, and away from China, as a result, unemployment goes down. Everyone wins.
Chretien devalued our dollar, that is why we boomed, but The Americans were raping our resources instead. Imports were 200% more expensive.

She replies

You could also say that the conservative success is due to the fact that they were a minority government and had the opposition to keep them in check. The Conservative platform isolates certain groups that's why I preferred NDP. Name calling, really?

I reply

Or the fact that people actually trust him because he Governed our great nation through a shitstorm, and we emerged stronger than everyone else.

She replies

K he was in power before the recession started. Doesn't that say something? Also we aren't out of the recession. You make it sound like everyone in Canada is happy and working and our fearless leader is the one behind it. Obviously if 60% of people voted against him then he wasn't doing that great a job and respresenting the population. Most of the conservative seats were won due to vote splitting.

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Recession was caused by the US and that idiotic Obama. He incurred more debt in 2 years than bush did in 8. The collapse of the US economy caused the global recession simply due to the fact the USD was the currency of trade.
That is besides the point.
40% of people supported Harper. 60% supported the NDP, Libs, Bloc, and Grn COMBINED. Harper has majority rule.
In a multiparty system, popular vote means shit. Ridings matter. Popular vote is tainted by location.

She replies

You can say Obama prolonged the recession but you can't say he started it. Bush did. He had an economic surplus once Clinton left and then completely detroyed the economy during his years in office. Harper has majority rule but does he represent a majority of the population? You called me stupid because you think the Conservative government is amazing. I said no it is not and that 60% of Canada agrees.

I reply

Here is some number crunching for you.
6 years in Middle-east = +$1 Tril debt
2 Years of Obama = +$14.3 Tril = 14 additional invasions of the middle east, each spanning 6 years = 84 more years of war.
Bush caused the recession? No. Democrat fronted bailouts of Democrate owned banks caused the recession.
BACK TO CANADA
You look like a young person, mid 20's, a student. NDP platform is nice on paper, but completely unaffordable without massive hike in taxes.

She replies

Sometimes you have to spend money to make money. Isn't that what Roosevelt did. Bush didn't have the interest of the people at heart. Again George Bush caused the recession. Obama just prolonged it. But if you read some of the newspapers they are getting back up again.
It could work depending on how they plan to implement it. They can't do everything the want to all at once but it is possible.

I reply

Obama didn't spend money to make money. He wasted money and then printed a whole bunch more and sent the US Mint's printing press into overdrive and deflated the dollar. How have they made money? They gave three bailouts, each one bigger than the last, and they are still in the worst shape in their history.
Did you know, if you cut taxes for the consumer, they have more spending power. Did you know, the economy is driven by the consumer? Hmm, fascinating...
Libs/Dems suck

She replies

Oooh consumerism that is solution to everything. Next you're going to feed me this crap about the trickle down theory. Yes spend money so big coroporations can make money and afford to hire more kids in china and exploit other nations. 

I reply

The only reason overseas factories exist at the numbers they do is because of heavy taxation on corporations. Yes, there will always be overseas factories, but the number can be reduced by giving the consumer power to spend by keeping taxes low. Less is more.
Alas...you talk about 40% vs 60%. Fact remains the same...popular vote means shit. What matters, is that in 308 separate ridings, the majority of people, in 167 ridings, wanted Conservative representation.

She replies

That is bullshit. So what would you like your wage to be be? 12 cents an hou? And while we're at it why don't you work 20 hours a day and be paid for ten. These transnational corporations take their jobs to developing nations to exploit them. It is not just taxation by the governments. Apple makes millions a year and yet most of its factories are in places like China. People are spending but are Canadians building ipods?

I reply


You obviously know nothing about foreign exchange rates in 3rd/2nd world nations. 12 cents CND could feed a family for several days in a 3rd/2nd world nation.
As for iPods, they are designed in the US, built in China. If you paid 10 cents, which is fair wage in china given foreign exchange. to a worker, they could build 5000 ipods for the cost of 1. 5000 iPods converts to 2.5 mil to pay the wages of the 18 000+ US designers, not to mention retail employees. Business 101

She replies

Trust me I know. People are struggling on a dollar a day in Kenya for one person and China is more developed. And you proved my point. It is more cost effective for them to have jobs in developing nations. The jobs are leaving North America for that reason. So if Harper gives them tax breaks they don't have to change they are just increasing their profits. These corporations are just exploiting both ends.

I reply

But high corporate taxation leads to lay-offs on our end. What don't you get about that? Corporate taxes affect everyone. If you own your own dry cleaning store, corporate taxes affect you. If you are a doctor who has incorporated their practice (whihc, all of them do BTW), then corporate taxes affect you. Corporate taxes affect EVERYTHING and EVERYONE that moves! The less taxation, the better! What is so hard to understand about that?

She replies

That's why you give tax breaks to smaller local businesses and other incentives. True capitalism without government intervention is what leads to exploitation. It only benefits a select few.

I reply

That is what corporate tax cuts are. Much like how in our tax system of poor, middle and rich is broken in to less, moderate, and more taxes, corporate tax cuts work the same way for small and large business. small andlarge corporations are broken down into less and more taxes, but is simply grouped into the entire concept of "corporate taxes" Corporate means ALL business from the corner 7/11 to RIM.
Do you know anything about the political system and how taxation works?

She replies

What I am saying is tax big business more. Tax smaller businesses less. Give incentives to companies that stay local. Not give everyone tax breaks.

I reply

Don't you get it? Most of the lay offs come from larger companies, who cannot pay the salaries AND the heavy taxes.
Corporations do more than just money and "be greedy".
They pay corporate taxes, lease agreements, royalties, employee benefits, operating expenses, 3rd party association in terms of communication and technology, etc etc etc.
All of these things are handled by big corporations. When you raise taxes on big corporations, expenses exponentially increase.

I have yet to receive a reply...

What are you thoughts on these two idiots. Feel free to disagree with me.

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I dont think they realize who they are arguing with. First girl was completely raped. There is literally nothing she can say to justify her theory, she got wrecked. about to read the second argument.

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lol yea i am just sitting here watching as the JP goes up and up and as the girl gets more destroyed and destroyed.

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schectergitarrguyy is I don't know half of you half
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i cant even find the words, to express how fucking retarded those 2 women are

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second argument im a bit confused on. i dont know any of those people mentioned except obama and bush.

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You need to be Canadian, but the issue is taxing Corporations

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schectergitarrguyy is I don't know half of you half
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yeah, both shicks know jack shit about what they're arguing about

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yeah i got that part. It's not a very one sided argument. at least it isnt one of those people who know shit and just say "u mad"

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UPDATE:

bobbycatacutan:

Typical. Couldn't stand up to my facts so you resort to name calling. haHAHAHAA typical sheep

I reply:

What facts? You mean your conspiracy theories? I am giving you facts. The fact that US military equipment is tagged and tracked. The fact that multiple news agencies ACROSS THE GLOBE verify that the middle east invasion was for the reasons I stated. Not only have hundreds and hundred of enemy combatants been captured by allied forces across the globe, we killed Osama Bin Laden who has documented admissions of guilt for 9/11
You..believe 9/11 was an inside job. Prove that!

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schectergitarrguyy is I don't know half of you half
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lol,

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